Anony Mous

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  VE Day (victory in Europe) and the Generation.

  by Slidin Fast in

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  i am watching the celebrations of the 80th anniversary of ve day.

  80 years since the defeat of nazi germany in 1945. i find the interviews of the stalwart men and women who played their part very moving.

  these veterans speak with pride and sadness about their experiences, those they lost, those they fought alongside.

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  The people from that era have all but left, truly, I’ve been out for going on 14 years, and year over year, I hear less and less about the people that once were there. Even people you thought would’ve never given up, elders, Bethelites, I heard about one person I knew that just stopped going after his wife died, at age 92, he now waits to die because he went to Bethel at 17 and now sits in a 1-bedroom welfare apartment. Waste of life, lost his kids because he didn’t talk to them after they left. Of all the peoples I heard of, if they haven’t died yet, they’ve gone with the exception of 1 or 2 families. One popped up in the papers the other day, for having a meth lab in his shed.

  The problem off course is that they somehow snag younger people, a different message, a different group but this generation does not remember the last, does not know or remember the promises. I don’t believe JW today are the same JW I grew up with, in a sense us apostates won, they moderated significantly, but in a sense we lost because our stories no longer match their reality.

  The tales of ‘75 have gone; the generation lines redrawn; the truth rewritten and with regret; the past becomes a silhouette.
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  It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.

  recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.

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  The real one is where Anderson Cooper is lying. You really don’t need deepfakes to make a CNN host say stupid shit.
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  It’s now official - The Governing Body Members are called for Legal Deposition in a Major Court Case Against Jehovah’s Witnesses!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it’s now official - the governing body members are called for legal deposition in a major court case against jehovah’s witnesses!

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1ke6cgh/its_now_official_the_governing_body_members_are/.

  recent court documents show that members of the jehovah’s witnesses governing body — including former member tony morris — have been officially subpoenaed to give sworn testimony regarding cases of sexual abuse in new york and how the organization dealt with (or essentially hid) them.

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  These are depositions, not the witness stand. These can be very long and open ended (and really boring). The problem for the WTBTS is everybody talks eventually, the problem for the prosecution is what the WTBTS attorneys will be able to seal or limit before it goes onto the witness stand (or public access). Basically the deposition is the long form version to discover what they will be able to ask you about on the witness stand, after depositions, both attorneys and the judge have to go through it and agree on what can be admitted, then the case still has to get resolved before it will become public.

  The problem for the ex-JW movement is that this won’t move the needle for true believers, even if you had video evidence of them admitting serious wrongdoing, at best you’ll get someone saying it’s fake and those are not the real leaders of the JW, at worst they’ll say it is theocratic warfare and they are permitted to lie because more than likely the witness stand is where the Witnesses will lie and commit perjury (that is where the depositions and witness stand testimony conflict), then you still have 2 versions of the story, one where they said something in a 36 hour long video recording, one where they said something on the stand and then the story will be ‘the persecutors of this world didn’t like the truth so convicted them of perjury’.
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  Recently UK KH Up For Sale

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently refurbished uk kh recently refurbished up for sale, tentative 500,000 pounds!https://uk.news.yahoo.com/former-jehovahs-witness-hall-conversion-040000931.html .

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  There are no new buildings nearby? The scam is to keep buying new property with donations, get volunteer labor to fix it or build it, then sell it and pocket the money. They do this after about 20 years when the properties have appreciated in value and enough members have naturally rotated out so they don’t notice and complain.
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  Probability of Earth and life being how it is

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.

  but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.

  the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.

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  @ballistic: the simulation theory is interesting but no different than the god theory, there is a god out there that is simulating everything and pretending it’s all natural. The question is why and how.

  My primary reason to think we are not living in a simulation is because of what we do when we make simulations, eg video games. We put both conscious and unconscious signatures, culture, in-jokes and other features that would give it away. We also tend to be lazy and eg leave buildings empty shells if we don’t expect people to go looking in them or set arbitrary limits (render distance) to conserve energy both in creation and execution. We also have to patch it and break things on a regular basis and people find workarounds and break the rules.

  It is very possible that we are in a simulation; but I don’t see any jokes or signatures or any indication we can break the rules.
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  Probability of Earth and life being how it is

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.

  but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.

  the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.

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  The thing is, fine tuning is not needed when you have a large enough testing grounds for your probabilities.

  We can only ask the question because we happen to be in the right place at the right time. What is the likelihood that you have a device in your hand that can communicate across the world and you are rich enough to afford these luxuries and you happen to do this on a JW forum: compared to the entirety of human history, that is a very low chance, your parents must have been really intelligent to have produced you at just the right time 40-50-60 years ago and joined the JW just so we can have this conversation, by the logic used above, your own parents must be deities.
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  Space just got Girl-Bossed!!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. social
  2. current

  the founding members of the:.

  advanced.

  taskforce.

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  @joey: I am being pedantic, this group never became astronauts, they didn’t reach space. They flew really high, like that guy that jumped out of a balloon at that height.
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  Bible Reading Schedule, Dumbed Down?

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has any body noticed that the bible reading schedule has been reduced to one chapter per week.

  does any one know if this is a policy change or something temporary?

  at this rate the complete cycle will take 22 years plus..

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  Where are the days you had to read the Bible in 2 years before being considered for pioneering or elder. I remember special pioneers/Gilead/Bethel had to read the entire Bible during their class (several months) in order to graduate.

  If you can’t read a chapter per day (5-15 minutes), then you are probably not going to read it 1 verse per day, plus you lose all the context at that pace.
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  Probability of Earth and life being how it is

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are some things we don't know about existence and whether the earth is a simulation or even a creation.

  but we can do some statistical analysis on it.. the probability of a planet like earth existing in the goldilocks zone and having a moon that perfectly eclipses the sun is extremely low, but it's not impossible.

  the habitable zone (or goldilocks zone) around a star is the region where a planet could potentially support liquid water on its surface.

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  If the chances are 1 in 10B, then new life starts literally all the time. I think the chances are lower, somewhere in the trillions which still means 1 or more civilizations per galaxy.

  Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

  Douglas Adams

  
  

  Its like saying the chances to win the lottery are 1:18M and then giving everyone in the country a scratch off - more than a few people are going to win.
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  Judge Arrested for Immigration Related Criminality

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  breaking: fbi director kash patel has announced the arrest of milwaukee judge hannah dugan for obstructing ice during the arrest of an illegal alien.

  patel: "we believe judge dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested in her courthouse, eduardo flores ruiz, allowing the subject — an illegal alien — to evade arrest.".

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  So called free speech zones have long been a contentious issue and imho wouldn’t pass scrutiny. Which they didn’t in this case. The legal arguments are interesting, hence why I said, the legal standard that needs to be reached should be very high. I’m talking purely the legal arguments of the case, nobody says they didn’t go on the grounds and nobody says some weren’t violent.

  The question is legally theory of who committed a misdemeanor (very few were convicted under said standard, the prosecutors went immediately for felony), felony (most were charged with felonies and even military offenses like treason) or the protest on the grounds was legally permitted under first amendment (which is eventually what SCOTUS, congress and the current DOJ held was the standard).

  Rounding everyone up in the way they were, charging them without due process is the problem, that is why they were pardoned, not because they didn’t do anything wrong per se (that was never proven beyond a reasonable doubt for the majority of people) but because they were denied their civil rights under Biden.